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S5E2 - Joan of Arc's Platonic understanding of France
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S5E2 - Joan of Arc's Platonic understanding of France

Joan of Arc is the embodiment of a supernatural union between metaphysics and phenomenology.
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Season 5 Episode 2

Joan of Arc is preparing her army for the march to free Orléans from the English siege. She makes her way from Poitiers to Chinon and then to Tours where she is fitted for armor. Joan requests that a sword be retrieved that sits behind the altar at the church of St. Catherine of Fierbois. However, amidst the preparation we have a rare opportunity to understand more of Joan’s map of meaning. We are looking at Joan for her perspective, and she is showing us God’s perspective. Joan has a very Platonic understanding of France, one that points upward to the social Kingship of Christ and not downward to cultural triumphalism. Joan of Arc is a phenomenon. In order to understand her more deeply and meaningfully, we need a phenomenological perspective. Joan shows herself to be the embodiment of a supernatural union of metaphysics and phenomenology. Each remains uniquely its own, while Joan unifies them in truth, beauty, and goodness through the grace at work in her.


Reflective question

After contemplating what Joan’s map of meaning might look like based on what we know about her to this point, can you describe it and how it challenges your own map of meaning?


I am also the co-host of the Heroic Hearts podcast with Amy Chase. Heroic Hearts is devoted to a spiritual adventure with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse of Lisieux! Join us on the journey!

Visit Amy’s Substack, The Occidental Tourist.


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The Dove and Rose
The Dove and Rose Podcast
A podcast discussing my model of a holy expression of Jehannian-Thérèsian Catholic Spirituality. The Dove and Rose is a phenomenological journey through the heart of St. Joan of Arc in the company of St. Thérèse. Also subscribe to The Dove and Rose podcasts on Anchor, Apple, and Spotify.